Comments for The Ramblings of Octavo http://www.octavo.za.net Sat, 04 Sep 2010 20:00:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 Comment on s710 post by Gerhard http://www.octavo.za.net/?p=206#comment-717 Gerhard Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:22:51 +0000 http://www.octavo.za.net/?p=206#comment-717 Ho! Octavo old bean, how are you :) Resurrecting my blog (still on blogger... thinking I need my own wordpress one!), followed some links and landed here. Good times :) Glad to see you're keeping fit. Your last post was about Spore, I can talk your ear off about games coming out in the next few weeks!! So gimme a shout. Laters, G Ho! Octavo old bean, how are you :)

Resurrecting my blog (still on blogger… thinking I need my own wordpress one!), followed some links and landed here. Good times :)

Glad to see you’re keeping fit. Your last post was about Spore, I can talk your ear off about games coming out in the next few weeks!!

So gimme a shout.

Laters,
G

]]> Comment on s710 post by Octavo http://www.octavo.za.net/?p=206#comment-715 Octavo Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:33:44 +0000 http://www.octavo.za.net/?p=206#comment-715 it's a bit better at posting comments though! it’s a bit better at posting comments though!

]]> Comment on Surprise by dave http://www.octavo.za.net/?p=198#comment-701 dave Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:22:34 +0000 http://www.octavo.dargo.info/?p=198#comment-701 Whoa whoa its time to post sir. Google is forgetting about your site! Ibis also needs to post more. this is not acceptable! Whoa whoa its time to post sir. Google is forgetting about your site! Ibis also needs to post more. this is not acceptable!

]]> Comment on Happy Birthday! by ibis http://www.octavo.za.net/?p=194#comment-698 ibis Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:19:45 +0000 http://www.octavo.dargo.info/2007/08/happy-birthday-3/#comment-698 Aw, thank you! I love you! :D Aw, thank you! I love you! :D

]]> Comment on Religion as an excuse for bigotry by Zodan http://www.octavo.za.net/?p=188#comment-596 Zodan Sun, 20 May 2007 16:23:50 +0000 http://www.octavo.dargo.info/2007/05/religion-as-an-excuse-for-bigotry/#comment-596 Hey there Mike :) I did hint at that ? Gosh, didn't know it came across as such. I was thinking more along the lines of hormone chemistry in the mother during pregnancy being seen as a theory for a predisposition towards homosexuality in men. In nature in general I would not be able to make any comments, and as far as I know I didn't intend such ( being that my comments were particular to people). I do however recall hearing that only dolphins (and possibly monkeys) have shown to have intercourse for pleasure, not sure if it has been proved beyond reasonable doubt. On the homosexual front in nature, Wikipedia has some interesting anecdotal information : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_animals. Would be something interesting to look into, but I believe we'll get a wrapping on the knuckles for going off topic :) Hey there Mike :) I did hint at that ? Gosh, didn’t know it came across as such. I was thinking more along the lines of hormone chemistry in the mother during pregnancy being seen as a theory for a predisposition towards homosexuality in men.

In nature in general I would not be able to make any comments, and as far as I know I didn’t intend such ( being that my comments were particular to people). I do however recall hearing that only dolphins (and possibly monkeys) have shown to have intercourse for pleasure, not sure if it has been proved beyond reasonable doubt.

On the homosexual front in nature, Wikipedia has some interesting anecdotal information : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_animals. Would be something interesting to look into, but I believe we’ll get a wrapping on the knuckles for going off topic :)

]]> Comment on Religion as an excuse for bigotry by Octavo http://www.octavo.za.net/?p=188#comment-595 Octavo Sun, 20 May 2007 16:07:36 +0000 http://www.octavo.dargo.info/2007/05/religion-as-an-excuse-for-bigotry/#comment-595 "Christians believe that we are all created and loved equally, so how could God create something he/she detests/outlaws right?" Which is another reason why religion is so dangerous. "but I have not known any regular anal penetration to the point of ejaculation of one animal by another purely for pleasure" Bonobo chimps frequently engage in homosexual acts for pleasure in the wild. "As for the Greenies, they frustrate the crap out of me, but I’ve always conceded, that they’ve played and will continue to play, a significant role in the safety of Unclear(I mean Nuclear) power generation." Explain how this is any different from my situation? Religious zealots frustrate the crap out of me too, but I'm not about to start vandalising their cars or anything. I'm critiquing their beliefs, nothing more. And fundamentalist greenies are not in the habit of bombing nightclubs. "Live and let live maan!" Do you think this is a saying that fundamentalist religious zealots are likely to be shouting to their followers? “Christians believe that we are all created and loved equally, so how could God create something he/she detests/outlaws right?”

Which is another reason why religion is so dangerous.

“but I have not known any regular anal penetration to the point of ejaculation of one animal by another purely for pleasure”

Bonobo chimps frequently engage in homosexual acts for pleasure in the wild.

“As for the Greenies, they frustrate the crap out of me, but I’ve always conceded, that they’ve played and will continue to play, a significant role in the safety of Unclear(I mean Nuclear) power generation.”

Explain how this is any different from my situation? Religious zealots frustrate the crap out of me too, but I’m not about to start vandalising their cars or anything. I’m critiquing their beliefs, nothing more. And fundamentalist greenies are not in the habit of bombing nightclubs.

“Live and let live maan!” Do you think this is a saying that fundamentalist religious zealots are likely to be shouting to their followers?

]]> Comment on Religion as an excuse for bigotry by mikey http://www.octavo.za.net/?p=188#comment-594 mikey Sun, 20 May 2007 04:07:27 +0000 http://www.octavo.dargo.info/2007/05/religion-as-an-excuse-for-bigotry/#comment-594 One other thing on the animal homo subject- if human females only came into season once or twice a year we'd probably all be raving queers! This in part may also explain this behavior in animals- if indeed it does occur on any significant scale- which I doubt. One other thing on the animal homo subject- if human females only came into season once or twice a year we’d probably all be raving queers! This in part may also explain this behavior in animals- if indeed it does occur on any significant scale- which I doubt.

]]> Comment on Religion as an excuse for bigotry by mikey http://www.octavo.za.net/?p=188#comment-593 mikey Sun, 20 May 2007 04:02:21 +0000 http://www.octavo.dargo.info/2007/05/religion-as-an-excuse-for-bigotry/#comment-593 Davo, Hey maan sho sum respek maan- wat u mean por form- eh bro? On another tack- a Christian cannot share your view on sexual orientation being determined at conception, because Christians believe that we are all created and loved equally, so how could God create something he/she detests/outlaws right? Zod hints along the way that same sex, sexual relations occur in nature. I may be ignorant here(forgive any poor form) but I have not known any regular anal penetration to the point of ejaculation of one animal by another purely for pleasure, as in humans where clearly, the main motivation is pleasure. Animals instictively copulate for pro creation and the pleasure is just a side effect, if indeed there is any for them((hard(no pun) to imagine being held captive by the rod as being fun- as in the case of dogs)) ! If it does occur it is surely a rarity that can be rationally explained by, for eg. the lack of a suitable female, unnatural environment etc etc. As for the Greenies, they frustrate the crap out of me, but I've always conceded, that they've played and will continue to play, a significant role in the safety of Unclear(I mean Nuclear) power generation. Live and let live maan! Davo,
Hey maan sho sum respek maan- wat u mean por form- eh bro? On another tack- a Christian cannot share your view on sexual orientation being determined at conception, because Christians believe that we are all created and loved equally, so how could God create something he/she detests/outlaws right?
Zod hints along the way that same sex, sexual relations occur in nature. I may be ignorant here(forgive any poor form) but I have not known any regular anal penetration to the point of ejaculation of one animal by another purely for pleasure, as in humans where clearly, the main motivation is pleasure. Animals instictively copulate for pro creation and the pleasure is just a side effect, if indeed there is any for them((hard(no pun) to imagine being held captive by the rod as being fun- as in the case of dogs)) ! If it does occur it is surely a rarity that can be rationally explained by, for eg. the lack of a suitable female, unnatural environment etc etc.
As for the Greenies, they frustrate the crap out of me, but I’ve always conceded, that they’ve played and will continue to play, a significant role in the safety of Unclear(I mean Nuclear) power generation.
Live and let live maan!

]]> Comment on Religion as an excuse for bigotry by Octavo http://www.octavo.za.net/?p=188#comment-592 Octavo Sat, 19 May 2007 09:40:42 +0000 http://www.octavo.dargo.info/2007/05/religion-as-an-excuse-for-bigotry/#comment-592 Hey Mike - I can understand your confusion - you've mixed up two separate posts and spliced them together out of context, which is pretty poor form. Let me clarify since you're obviously having some difficulty. The word bigot can be used to describe anyone who is intolerant. By this broad definition, just about everyone is bigoted in some way or another. When people proclaim that the Bible is infallible and literally true, I am intolerant of their views and in that sense am a bigot. Just as you are intolerant of greenies who protest nuclear power. Me posting my opinions online is not bigotry, nor are my posted opinions examples of bigotry. An example of me being a bigot online would be if I edited your posts or refused to allow them because your views differed with my own. Finally, it should be clear that the word bigot is generally used to indicate something more sinister than someone who is merely intolerant. In popular language, a bigot is a racist, a homophobe or something similar and in that more popular sense of the word, I am anything but a bigot. Hey Mike - I can understand your confusion - you’ve mixed up two separate posts and spliced them together out of context, which is pretty poor form.

Let me clarify since you’re obviously having some difficulty. The word bigot can be used to describe anyone who is intolerant. By this broad definition, just about everyone is bigoted in some way or another. When people proclaim that the Bible is infallible and literally true, I am intolerant of their views and in that sense am a bigot. Just as you are intolerant of greenies who protest nuclear power. Me posting my opinions online is not bigotry, nor are my posted opinions examples of bigotry.

An example of me being a bigot online would be if I edited your posts or refused to allow them because your views differed with my own.

Finally, it should be clear that the word bigot is generally used to indicate something more sinister than someone who is merely intolerant. In popular language, a bigot is a racist, a homophobe or something similar and in that more popular sense of the word, I am anything but a bigot.

]]> Comment on Religion as an excuse for bigotry by Mikey http://www.octavo.za.net/?p=188#comment-591 Mikey Sat, 19 May 2007 08:08:39 +0000 http://www.octavo.dargo.info/2007/05/religion-as-an-excuse-for-bigotry/#comment-591 Hey Davo, "I’ve never claimed that I’m NOT a bigot" and "I am intolerant of people who hold views out of ignorance" and,"by the proper definition of the word, yes I am a bigot" and "That hardly makes me a bigot" Gee, I'm confused! So one is a bigot as long as your ignorance is relative to/suits your viewpoint- right? Help me out here! C u l8r. Hey Davo,
“I’ve never claimed that I’m NOT a bigot” and “I am intolerant of people who hold views out of ignorance” and,”by the proper definition of the word, yes I am a bigot” and “That hardly makes me a bigot” Gee, I’m confused!
So one is a bigot as long as your ignorance is relative to/suits your viewpoint- right? Help me out here!
C u l8r.

]]> Comment on On heaven and marriage by Zodan http://www.octavo.za.net/?p=189#comment-590 Zodan Fri, 18 May 2007 21:20:48 +0000 http://www.octavo.dargo.info/2007/05/on-heaven-and-marriage/#comment-590 20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: 20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: 20:36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. Taken in context I believe that perhaps the section in verse 35 might refer to children of God after resurrection and entrance into heaven ? As you say, it would make no sense for Jesus to emphasis and even attend a wedding if he did not believe that people in marriage would be able to go to heaven. Also verse 36 says "Neither can they die", now last time I checked, don't matter who you are, you can still die on this here earth :) Perhaps a thought ? :) 20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
20:36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

Taken in context I believe that perhaps the section in verse 35 might refer to children of God after resurrection and entrance into heaven ? As you say, it would make no sense for Jesus to emphasis and even attend a wedding if he did not believe that people in marriage would be able to go to heaven.

Also verse 36 says “Neither can they die”, now last time I checked, don’t matter who you are, you can still die on this here earth :)

Perhaps a thought ? :)

]]> Comment on Religion as an excuse for bigotry by Zodan http://www.octavo.za.net/?p=188#comment-589 Zodan Fri, 18 May 2007 20:53:38 +0000 http://www.octavo.dargo.info/2007/05/religion-as-an-excuse-for-bigotry/#comment-589 :) I don't harbour any feelings of hatred towards Oct. Never have, and his difference of opinion to mine has never been a problem between us.The comment I made was merely on the comment that Brian made earlier, and in that case my comment was merely as a general observation about human nature, not a personal view. To Oct : Thanks for clarifying the point of using caps rather than bold in trying to emphasis your viewpoint, I did not know that, and apologise for that misunderstanding. The reference to the butler was merely because I did not know that the general consensus is that servant = slave. Remembering that my reference material of the Bible is based on Afrikaans version and it has been a long while since I've been through it. I was merely asking about the semantics regarding the wording. My comments are made in a very relaxed manner, I think perhaps the that my manner is misunderstood as being attacking, this however is not the case. Ah well, another day :) :) I don’t harbour any feelings of hatred towards Oct. Never have, and his difference of opinion to mine has never been a problem between us.The comment I made was merely on the comment that Brian made earlier, and in that case my comment was merely as a general observation about human nature, not a personal view.

To Oct : Thanks for clarifying the point of using caps rather than bold in trying to emphasis your viewpoint, I did not know that, and apologise for that misunderstanding.

The reference to the butler was merely because I did not know that the general consensus is that servant = slave. Remembering that my reference material of the Bible is based on Afrikaans version and it has been a long while since I’ve been through it. I was merely asking about the semantics regarding the wording.

My comments are made in a very relaxed manner, I think perhaps the that my manner is misunderstood as being attacking, this however is not the case.

Ah well, another day :)

]]> Comment on Religion as an excuse for bigotry by ibis http://www.octavo.za.net/?p=188#comment-588 ibis Thu, 17 May 2007 13:43:20 +0000 http://www.octavo.dargo.info/2007/05/religion-as-an-excuse-for-bigotry/#comment-588 "hatred is very easily installed even by the smallest of things like writing DOES NOT DESERVE WORSHIP in caps" Funny thing, that an expressed opinion can install HATRED (a very strong word) for someone who simply does not share your views. Especially since I thought christians aren't allowed to hate. Very strange. You believe he DOES deserve worship, Octavo believes he DOES NOT. And that difference in opinion justifies hate? Typical of a religious person, I say. “hatred is very easily installed even by the smallest of things like writing DOES NOT DESERVE WORSHIP in caps”

Funny thing, that an expressed opinion can install HATRED (a very strong word) for someone who simply does not share your views. Especially since I thought christians aren’t allowed to hate. Very strange.

You believe he DOES deserve worship, Octavo believes he DOES NOT. And that difference in opinion justifies hate? Typical of a religious person, I say.

]]> Comment on On heaven and marriage by Octavo http://www.octavo.za.net/?p=189#comment-587 Octavo Thu, 17 May 2007 13:31:06 +0000 http://www.octavo.dargo.info/2007/05/on-heaven-and-marriage/#comment-587 Good point about the "till death do us part" bit - I didn't think about that. Well in this passage it appears that Jesus is saying you cannot get or be married heaven, so I guess it's a moot point :) Good point about the “till death do us part” bit - I didn’t think about that.

Well in this passage it appears that Jesus is saying you cannot get or be married heaven, so I guess it’s a moot point :)

]]> Comment on On heaven and marriage by ibis http://www.octavo.za.net/?p=189#comment-586 ibis Thu, 17 May 2007 13:26:24 +0000 http://www.octavo.dargo.info/2007/05/on-heaven-and-marriage/#comment-586 As far as I know, the accepted belief is that you get married on earth, but in heaven there is no marriage. Earthly connections don't apply after you die. Hence the "till death do us part". I've always wondered about that. Think about this, if your soul is married in heaven can you still get cross if your husband looks at another woman's soul? As far as I know, the accepted belief is that you get married on earth, but in heaven there is no marriage. Earthly connections don’t apply after you die. Hence the “till death do us part”. I’ve always wondered about that.

Think about this, if your soul is married in heaven can you still get cross if your husband looks at another woman’s soul?

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